Ok, so in addition to being a fraud, Bill Windsor is fat and lazy. He is starting to figure out that he needs a new excuse to a. go home for the hollidays, and b. explain why his little "movie" isn't going to be in any theaters. So his idea is to make up this lie about needing to go into hiding for his own protection. His idiot followers are buying it completly but lets see what our little pedophile lover Presley thinks about it. First is Bill's little white lie post, then Presley's follow up:
11-7-2012 -- 8:00 AM -- JACKSON MISSISSIPPI: I am thinking that I may need to go into hiding for a while. It may be prudent for me to go to an undisclosed location in an unmarked vehicle until the Congressional Testimony DVDs are prepared
. I may choose to delay Alaska, Hawaii, Portland, and Olympia until just before you Meet me in DC on January 9, 2013. My concern is that I might be arrested while seeking to board an airplane. I'm gong to think about this some more. I need to ensure that the bad guys can't interfere with the January 9, 2013 presentation of our testimony to Congress.
Presley Renae Dauben-Tuma Bill, I've been worried about you since you left Sacramento! As much as we want this finished...I'd rather have the Revolutionary Party leader safe! Do whatever needs to be done to make sure you are safe & the tools & stories you have will be not be unfinished business. You have my number & email....if you need ANYTHING let me know and I will do whatever! Love you adopted dad! :) just remember: lightnings a comin!
I remember when we were first introduced to Presley, she was a misguided but smart girl. Now she is just drop dead, slap your mother type stupid. She is certianly a Dauben, thats for sure.
OK, I think I have this Congressional testimony thing figured out. It doesn't make sense that Bill, et al, would present his road trip testimony to a Congressional Education Panel; his "cause" has nothing to do with Pell grants or policies like No Child Left Behind and there are no committe hearings scheduled for 1/9. And, don't you actually have to be invited to speak before a Congressional committe or subcommitte?
ReplyDeleteI've been reading this all wrong. Bill is forming a panel to "educate" Congress in his "cause". I think he picked 1/9/13 to gather his troops in DC because there will be a joint session on 1/6 to count electoral votes, legislative sessions begin on 1/9 - so most members will be in DC. Timing is key, he has to do it before 1/15 because that's when inauguration activites begin. He's going to rebel-rouse and have his followers visit (ambush is probably a better word) Congressional offices to distribute his DVD's, if he gets enough rest and volunteers to finish them.
When I briefly looked at it, yes it appears you have to be invited to speak. I saw numerous websites with instructions regarding how to basically lobby for your cause.
ReplyDeleteI think the congressional testimony and the movie are two separate things. Everything is probably up to be use in the "movie," but I think the congressional testimony is basically going to be those short segments where they have the script saying my name is ___, I have experienced corruption in the ___ ____ ____ courts. I'm thinking that's an easy edit. Bill probably won't even watch all the footage.
You may be right about his timing, but it depends on when he chose his date. The schedule at one point was being reported that the 9th was the day the electoral votes would be count the votes. Some government conspiracy websites (particularly anti-Obama) were touting that as the final day to challenge his presidency should he be re-elected.
By law, electoral votes are counted in joint session on 1/6 @ 1:00 PM after every Presidential election. Legislative sessions convene 1/9 and run through 3/something.
ReplyDeleteI think you are right re: movie vs testimony. But, if you read between the lines, he intends to make clips of the movie in the format you've suggested, burn the "testimony" in DVD's for his minions to distribute to Congressional offices. Nowhere in any of his postings does he actually say that he or anybody else from his group(s) will be heard by or will testify in front of a Congressional committee. He's playing with words to flock his sheep.
Looks like Windsor is Joey's adopted daddy too. Ole daddy Bill's campaign appears to be highly motivated by his failure to have 3 cases heard by the US Supreme Court. I got curions about why/what/how. Here's what I found out: if you google US Supreme Court + William Windsor, you will find pages of postings, some of which appear to be reports from legitimate news agencies, on the cases. All have the same story, Bill got screwed, the Court Clerk is a fraud and the Judges are corrupt because they refused to hear his cases. All of the postings are either anonymous, written by Bill or Bill was the source. The postings are all over the place, just like how Joey plastered his favorite stories. I did not find any real substance re: details of the suits Bill filed.
On a side note: one of the postings, for which Bill was the source (with no by-line), said Bill wrote a book that would be available soon, at Amazon, Borders, Barnes & Noble and somebody else. The post was from late 2010. He hadn't decided on a title but it would either be Lawless America or Screwed, Glued and Tattooed. So, I checked. Nothing by either title. When I searched by author, I found a comic book about a character named William Windsor and a book about a goat named William Windsor. I don't recall the authors' names, but they weren't William Winsdor.
NBTDT, you are correct about 1/6 at 1p.m. I don't know why I thought it was 1/9. Guess my age is catching up with me. Brain is going. Next I'll start believing some of the conspiracy theories.
ReplyDeleteEhh, 6 - 9, easy mistake.
ReplyDeleteWhat's funny is that all those conpiracy people are going to be 3 days too late........not that they could change the count on 1/6........spinning their wheels for no reason..........well, why not enjoy DC in the dead of winter?.........just spending money they probably don't have........
I'm waiting for and more worried about the revolt coming out of MS. The new KKK leader was threatening to start new war Between the States if Obama is re-elected. One of the big 3 news show had a piece on them in Oct. The KKK was practicing up on their rifle and cross burning skills.
Well, I am lysdexic. :) I have followed various rebellious groups for many years now. Sui Juris, White Nationalist, Republic of Texas, Black Separatists, Neo Nazi, Neo Confederate, you name it and I have probably studied it or had direct contact with it. KKK has some strong supporters but they are few in number. Like most of these groups, instead of growing from a belief and moving to criminal conduct, they usually start with criminal conduct then move to a belief that fits their conduct. I think the internet has been a bad thing in that it allows their irrational conspiracies to be spread further and faster.....and we all know that if it is on the 'net, it must be true.
ReplyDeleteOh good Lord, adopted dad? Rofl, maybe Billy is sliding her some money and a big ole wink ;) IF ya know what I mean.
ReplyDeleteSomewhere NBTDToday or some commenter mentioned how Billy boy claimed gov't is going to kill him. He's still saying it. SMH, What does Billy truly get from doing this besides a whole lotta PIES and some sex kittens to wink at. What a gong show, please bring back Chuck Barris, he too was the top conspiracy monger of them allll. OH WAIT - maybe it IS CHUCK that's gonna kill Billy lol (you have to know Barris background to understand).
I realllly need to ask Billy sumthin' about the screenshot link below. UH Billy ole buddy, what ELSE is in the history of Lawless America besides your "freebie" hotels, women and all you can eat pie tour of USA?
Stay tuned folks...... GONG GONG
http://oi46.tinypic.com/nx2ayv.jpg
I like this comment under Bill's Montgomery, AL post:
ReplyDeleteBrian Danielson Ok.. Bill. We get it. Your fame can get you laid. But how about a real story for a change? You only post pictures of you with women.
Yeah, the plot to kill him, as he told it in 2010, was leaked by a jail house informant. The government solicited the inmate to help them carry out their evil deeds..........
on Nov. 5th there was supposedly suppose to be people going up to DC to do the same thing about putting all the corrupt in Jail, interestingly enough, when Nov. 5th came, heard nothing about it
ReplyDeleteI found some more discussion under this post about the plot:
ReplyDeleteMichael A. Keough I for one do not have enough info about the alleged government plot to kill you Bill. Could you expound upon that so that all of us can be better versed on that please? Thanks!
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Lawless America It's old news, Michael. Wife of a federal prisoner reported to a radio talk show that her husband said he was approached with a deal to get out of prison if he had me and one other Georgia activist killed.
Then you have the true lunatics:
Julia Ana: Be Careful, Bill.....this past election just gave permission for the United States to be Government controlled, run and the military to protect the government and corrupt politicians from the People....
E.h. Mac Key Talking the Talk and walking the walk:).That is how iTIs dun;).
Julia Ana: E.H. Mac Key...what do you mean.??
btw .. the election results.. showed that America The Beautiful, has been infiltrated by Terminally anacephalic illiterate idiots who do as they are told.
Shariles Sisson Riley Julia Ana-what an offensive comment you've just made. Not necessary and not part of what Lawless America is about. At all.
(Then, either somebody deleted a comment or Julia starts talking to herself.....)
Julia Ana: Not getting into Defense War with anyone... The word is, "Psychopathology"not "psychopathy""..as you have written. The aforementioned statement, which has resulted in voters choosing to hammer away at our constitutional rights; therefore I am concerned with the Safety of Bill.
Gong! Gong! Gong! Gong!
OK last one, then I'll quit - how can Bill possibly pass up this invitation? I'm sure those "ladies" do have many intereting stories..............
ReplyDeleteCharlotte Ricketts Will be in FL in a few days...you wanna come and talk to the death row ladies? We have many stories to tell
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Testing - tried to post something for Brannon. Post disappeared twice. Trying a different computer...
ReplyDeleteConspiracy NBTDT! (per brannon post). So Brian thinks Billy likes his ladies too? Sometimes one's intentions are all too obvious. Brannon, did the Nov 5 thing have to do with Billy? and what do you think of WIndsor? I'm not being sarcastic, I would like to know your thoughts Brannon, thanks.
ReplyDeleteSomething weird going on with copy/paste of comments on Bill's FB page. Sorry if some version of this pops up later.
ReplyDeleteThey might not make the 1/9 meeting, they have no place to stay. But, he will have a hotel, buses will transport them to/from the hotel to Congressional offices.
Some of the minions are starting to guess at the truth:
Alicia Overstreet Is there a room yet for the four hour congressional Educational Panel event by WTP? Is the MEET ME IN DC event incorporating it into the 9th's event? Meaning, should we continue to prepare to speak our 3minutes at the congressional gig or are we spending the time delivering packets to and speaking with our respective senators that we schedule appts with and other filming and Lawless America stuff.
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Tried again to post Bill's response again Alicia but disappeared again. Conspiracy!
ReplyDeleteBill said he "will have a meeting place at a hotel (yet to be identified)". How can he be sure he can line up the buses if they don't know where they are going?
You aren't the only dyslexic one, Curious Bystander. I must admit that I probably haven't known the 1-6 date since the 2000 election. I know the inauguration date off the top of my head, but not the date the electoral votes are certified. I saw this article and a few like it:
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NBTDT is right though. It's the 6th. I'm a dummy too.
Curious Bystander - the psychology of those kind of groups is really interesting.
Exactly NBTD!! Geesh he doesn't have this organized but plans on speaking? Ok then, right. Why won't any of his minions call to verify his DC baloney?
ReplyDeleteI'm going to bet he's going to state "many unknown people threatened my life and I had to be immediately escorted out of the country... even posting online will put me in danger so expect silence for days to come and make sure to hit that donate button, save Billy's life"
or something to that effect.
Presleys quote You have my number & email….if you need ANYTHING let me know and I will do whatever. What she gonna do? Hijack Daddy dauben's lawless and wheelie it all the way to Billy's? Yes Billy, Presley will do 'whatever', you gotta LOVE when women realllly mean the 'whatever' part. hehe
ReplyDeletesomething tells me she is into the doing "whatever" thing pretty liberally these days. You can see it in her speech as she adopts the Connie world view, she was a pretty intelligent and conservative young girl, now she is stupid and promiscuous.
ReplyDeleteOne cannot choose to not be a pedophile, like sexual orientation, or a myriad of different fetishes, bestiality, zoophilla. None of these is something people really choose, they can’t help how they are sexualy aroused and feel about these things, the same goes for pedophiles, therefore sending sex offenders to jail will do nothing to help the sex offender, what they need is support and understanding, which is what I aim to do at Range Court in Mullaloo with my support group called Second Chance. Once again I would be happy to help anyone set up a simmilar support group in your area, feel free to message me @ either of my facebook pages http://www.facebook.com/graham.woodruffe http://www.facebook.com/graham.woodruffe.71 Remember: “Condemn no one. If you can stretch out a helping hand, do so. If you cannot, fold your hands, bless your brothers, and let them go their own way.”
ReplyDeleteI dont pay much attention to the Bill thing, so in that sense I dont care for him, as for the Nov. 5th that was not connected to Bill, but none the less truther type people, I pay a little attention to all the shit that is said, cause Ive heard everyone is gonna do this or that, or there is gonna be a revolution n diff shit, 90% never happens actually 99% for instance The Olympics were one of those things, but nothing major happened, so most conspiracy shit, I take with a grain of salt, n just observe, but reality is very seldom do things happen.
ReplyDeletewtf
ReplyDeleteGraham Woodruffe how dare you support pedophiles
ReplyDeletewtf is right!! You're out of your mind. Its a CRIME to rape children, they belong in jail for exactly the reason you mention. THEY cannot control themselves. They're sick monsters and deserve to be locked away for life. it's impossible to heal them or change their ways but you apparently want society to accept this and allow them to roam free? I'm going to be sick, this is revolting on all levels. Plain sick!
ReplyDeleteDouble ditto. WTF??
ReplyDelete@ Graham: dude, you are in the wrong pew. There really is no excuse for not managing any kind of self gratifying behavior that hurts somebody else, or any beast. Sending a pedophile to jail isn't supposed to help the pervert, it's supposed to punish past behavior and protect future potential victims.
I can not stretch out a helping hand. However, I will fold my hands, bless my "brothers", let them go their own way, then call the cops.
Yeah, the most interesting thing about the 1/9 event will be the story Bill comes up with for why it didn't happen. Most events like this are scheduled by hotels at least 6 months to a year in advance. He's got less than 2 months to figure it out - and his 'go' date is right when Congress re-convenes and there will be a Presidential inauguration. If he waits much longer, the closest available hotel might be in NC. Can't go north of DC, hotels are filled with Sandy refugees.
ReplyDeleteObviously, neither of you are dummies. The drkatesview piece made me laugh. Seems to me that if these people really want to affect change, they should understand the laws and know relative dates.
ReplyDeletesorry y'all - trolling as an excuse to avoid "chores"..........
ReplyDeleteFor those interested: Graham Woodruffe is a convicted pedophile in Mullaloo, Australia. He's got a support group for other convicted pedo's that have served their sentence and have been released, it appears, with urges they can't manage.
There's a blog that tells the story about a guy in New Zealand that went to an ER with an "eel stuck up his bottom". Graham posted the following comment:
This is not unusal the other day I was preparing a salad and slipped and fell on the kitchen floor whilst peeling a cucumber which got lodged in my bottom for several hours
Graham Woodruffe Mullaloo
so, he was naked while making his salad??
@ Brannon: ECO Facebook pages are down again?
ReplyDeleteDaddy Bill has bigger problems than finding a hotel and lining up bus service. The "testimony" DVD's might not be ready. Somebody posted on FB looking for, and willing to pay for, some copies of Bill's interviews in a hurry. Here's Bill's response.
ReplyDeleteLawless America Anna, there is no one as I have communicated previously. Nothing has been processed as our tech guy quit. No one should expect to see any video anytime soon. My sole focus must be completing the interviews and processing the Congressional testimony for distribution on January 9. You know how passionate I am about your cause, but I cannot do a thing for you at this time.
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Just after that post, there is a call out from Bill for somebody to design a DVD and cover. He doesn't have any money to pay for a design but he'll be glad to give the designer credit on the cover and in the movie.
It is a dog's natural instinct to hunt, kill and eat. Farm dogs are socialized and trained to defend the very animals their natural instinct is to hunt, kill and eat. For most, the socialization takes but should it fail we usually take them out and put a bullet in their head. We condemn them. And I will never bless "my brothers" who prey upon the most helpless of our society, our children. The death penalty for pedophiles, if they cannot control their urges in civilized society, might be appropriate.
ReplyDelete@ Curious: Yeah! What you said. I like that better, great analogy. The more I read about Graham, the more I realized his sexual proclivity is extreme and bizarre. No blessings from me, condemnation is appropriate.
ReplyDeleteShould you visit him around dinner time, DON'T EAT THE SALAD!!!
ReplyDeleteya I deactivated my fb account for a little bit, n I so there down temp. for that reason, when I re-activate my fb ECO will be back up
ReplyDeleteRight there NBTD... that statement alone boils my blood. How many times I've seen over the months about Lawless dude being filthy rich and HAS the money to HELP the less fortunate. This piece of scum is a sick narcissist wanting the attention and to take another trip around the USA on other people's money period. All of his workers - every last one were volunteers. If this is such a grand idea, where's the production companies that would have been sponsoring him all this time since he's going to make millions on the documentary.
ReplyDeleteScam scam scam. These people deserve what they get, David Dauben included. How dumb people can be. Sadly time will prove again that Billy is like Farris is like... all the ones before. Time to get off your butt and live your life, quit waiting for some savior or lightning or anything else to come solve you from the problems you or your family have created for themselves (speaking to Daubens of course). God does not help those who will not help themselves.
Sunday evening rant completed, please go back to your regular scheduled program.
Brannon,you are smart, I figured you were pretty level headed and can see things for what they are.
grrr no edit. lol
ReplyDeletemeant I read time and again from Billy's followers in his defense how their 'savior' is so wealthy and 'renowned' and he's funding this entire project. BS BS BS BS BS BS
Its only a matter of time that the backlash against Billy is going to happen. Either most of them are conspiracy nutty's and will buy into his 'death threat' crap OR the majority are level headed enough to realize he's played them for a fool and used their hard-earned money to have a little vacation, with each city having their own CHEERS FOR BILLY awaiting his arrival, because bottom line, its the attention the guy is getting, is what's motivated him to keep this up. Sick need for attention, to be told how 'loved' he is and how much he is 'right' and the legal world is wrong. Classic textbook narcissism. (<<<google it David)
see here is one of the many examples of things that have not happened, I do remember watching this when it came out thinking.. Interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOJCkUboeDA
ReplyDeleteYeah, I think I read about a group from the Dakotas that basically had the same citizen trials against judges and politicians planned. I think there several groups with these ideas. I briefly looked for some of the other groups documents because I'd bet that most of what Bill has come up with is a ripoff from other preexisting groups.
ReplyDeleteBrannon, it's pretty interesting looking at all the "prophecies" and plans that don't come to pass with these types of people. Even if this Bill Windsor group can't be called a cult, he's targeting a lot of the same types of people. Luckily, I don't think Bill is in this for the long run, but I could be wrong. I think his "serial entrepreneur" type takes things, builds something, and runs before it collapses.
ReplyDeleteHas anybody here seen Sound of My Voice? It's a surprisingly good (sometimes a little slow) movie. Once you get into it, it's really enthralling. They film a lot of ambiguous scenes left open to interpretation. The whole thing is basically about a cult led by a woman who may or may not be from the future.
ReplyDeleteAnd, since I'm playing catchup, regarding Graham:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.gurl.com/2012/10/22/early-puberty-in-boys/
graham woodruffe mullaloo says:
10/28/2012 at 11:54 pm
@ christian peper – Totally agree with you, lowering the age of consent is a STARTING point and would bring us in line with the majority of countries in the world. This will have to be considered sooner or later as both boys and girls are maturing at an ever younger age. Parents don’t seem to want to accept the fact when their offspring sexual mature at 11 years of age they are no longer children but young adults…
graham woodruffe mullaloo says:
10/23/2012 at 10:02 am
As young boys are hitting puberty earlier we need to reconsider the age of consent and have a sensible debate about lowering the age of consent.
This dude is more than scary, he's a nightmare looking for a place to happen. I hope he stays way, way down under. I quit reading his posts when I found one on a blog out of Florida about a new animal abuse law. He was commenting he didn't see a problem in having sex with an animal, it wasn't hurting anybody.
ReplyDeleteRight before I that one I found a post written by his wife Valerie, she's a real whack job too (go figure). If you see mention of Range Court Seven, that's a bi-sexual swingers group. And her favorite Graham quote is "I'd rather have a dog than a feminist".
That's it, I've decided they are not worth any more of my time.........
ya, it is pretty interesting watching them play out
ReplyDeleteGraham Woodruffe Mullaloo you sound like a pedo pervert, get help and leave kids alone!!!
ReplyDeletewow, that is scary. I'm glad that I didn't have time to Google more. Either that couple is really scary or somebody is using a Connie technique and being a troll. I'm sure she is the one that set up that blog in the name of the woman that is accusing her father. Somebody could be running around using some sex offender's name and making sick comments. I almost don't know which is worse. If there really is some guy out there that is that sexually deviant who is harming children and animals, then that's worse.
ReplyDeleteGinger, I'm curious, are trac and f from around North TX or are the from the same area as the graham post? Or all they all behind random proxies? Can you tell?
ReplyDeleteGraham and T both have the same IP address and its an address that is not traceable except for originating from the UK. F has a slightly different IP but clearly its the same person. When they first posted I thought about arguing with him but I figured it was either some kind of set up, or it was straight up fake, so I just let it go.
ReplyDeleteThanks Ginger, Looks like he just looks for articles with keywords. Either it is trying to rile people up that there is a "real predator" in their midst, or it's trying to ruin the reputation of the real graham, if there is one.
ReplyDeleteI noticed too that it seemed to be looking for articles with key words. I guess I was so focused on busting Bill, it never crossed my mind that this could be a fake or a set up. Golly, gee I hope it is so me, kids and all of God's 4 legged creatures in the UK will sleep better tonight.
ReplyDeleteBTW, re: Bill - he's all excited about some guy that is supposed to be connected with CNN who got CNN to report on Bill's cause. Nope. The guy posted the story on CNN's iReport. Anybody can upload a story to iReport and there is a disclaimer on the page that advises the posts are not vetted by CNN.
ReplyDeletethats like bragging that you are on Wikipedia right after making your own insert.
ReplyDeleteLOL - I think he did that too. Wiki's got a page on him and reads just like other posts under his by-line
ReplyDeleteYeah, I saw Bill's Wiki page. I agree that the thing is a total vanity entry.
ReplyDeleteApparently our Billy Windsor also attended the Queen's birthday party. (lol) If I were Billy, I'd stay clear of Graham just in case he has a thing for goats.
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Windsor_(goat)
BTW, Ick eww fake or not, that's plain sick whomever wrote Graham W. Not cool. not ok. Takes a sick mind to come up with that stuff. ugg
I don't know why somebody is ruining Graham's internet footprint, but I found more than a few posts from the supposed wife asking the webmasters to remove the comments under their names. Supposedly they have been stalked since August 2011. Several of the comments under their names on bullying stories say something to the extent of if the person had just closed their facebook page, the bullying would stop. If somebody really is stalking them and writing these comments in their names (while attaching their home address), it's really sick, no matter what Graham may have done.
ReplyDeleteThat's the best photo I've seen of Billy so far.
ReplyDeleteHow Dare you post such a salacious and slanderous comment. You like all of the other internet trolls will have your day in court. These poor Innocent people are sick to the back teeth of this carry on, it is unfair, unwarranted and illegal to do what you people are doing.
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