Daddy "I don't understand" Dauben and Presley "I love pedophiles" Tunafish are outraged that Shane is coming down here to testify in Joey's Ellis county case. Since both operate at a kindergarten level, we will try and hash this out for you.
Patrick Wilson just showed exactly why Shane is here in his question to potential jury members..."Do you know what cyberbullying is?"
Joey Dauben is a cyber bully, and thats not a debatable point. He was one when he went after this guy in Red Oak, and he continued that well after when he went after Shane. The Daubenistas won't understand what I'm talking about since they are sure that Shane is guilty of what Joey accused him of. But for the rest of us on planet earth, Shane has not been convicted of and therefore is to be presumed innocent of those crimes.....PERIOD. It doesn't matter what you believe, it only matters what you can prove. And so, when Joey went after Shane in the exact same fashion that he did against this guy in Red Oak, he established a pattern. Shane is here to not only show the jury members that Joey didn't learn his lesson, but that he has only become more violent and offensive in his cyber bullying.
I'm sure the D.A. is a lot smarter than I am but I probably would have avoided Shane as a witness, not because I don't believe he is innocent but it just seems to open a can of worms. But then I got to thinking. Calling Shane to the stand means that Presley will beat the defense attorney over the head until he puts her on the stand to save his life and sanity. And her testifying will guarantee a guilty verdict and long sentence. Mr. D.A., I salute you.
ReplyDeleteyeah I think Patrick has already played this all the way through. The last place on earth Presley wants to be is on the stand under oath trying to defend all her different postions she has taken. Then you get to tie into all this that Joey and Presley had a relationship as a result of his cyber bullying. You are right, this could backfire, but that would be dependant on Presley being on top of things and she most certianly is not. I think Patrick will have those jury members foaming at the mouth to get back there and convict Joey.
ReplyDeleteAt first I was little worried that Wilson might not know how deep the doo-doo is in this pile and Shane vs Presley would derail the issues. After a little thought, I decided Wilson probably fully understands and will use some of the doo-doo to his advantage. I saw him do this in an abuse trial He was extremely effective and the doo-doo pile was much higher and very, very dark.
ReplyDeleteAfter a little more thought, I think I'd like to hear rebuttal to Shane's testimony. If Presley is called, Wilson may give her the spanking she needs. Sad thing is, that if Wilson does slap her upside the head with the truth, she doesn't have the capacity to reflect and learn from it. The Daubens would use that to solidify her believe that the entire judicial system is corrupt and the government was successful in their conspiracy to shut Joey down, at her expense.
Maybe the defense doesn't understand the doo-doo pile and will call the Lightening Buddies!!
ReplyDeleteMy money's on Wilson, he can take them all down.
yeah the dauben's would fly off the deep end with that, so would presley but wouldn't that be just too much irony to endure? That Patrick Wilson in a court presided over by Bob Carroll and using testimony from Shane Crowe get Joey Dauben convicted by a jury of his peers?
ReplyDeleteI dont know, if it gets down to her vs. shane
ReplyDeleteyou really think the Jury that doesnt know any background will side with Shane? its going to turn into its own events that has nothing to do with the case, the trial its self is Fraudulent Use or Possession of Identifying Information
I would attempt to provide you with a thoughtful reply but I'm laughing way too hard..........
ReplyDeleteOMG! This is so Karma, the irony is just too much!
What it tells me is Patrick is after the max conviction, whatever that is. He could play it safe and ignore all these side show issues and just go with the case at hand, he would probably get something but nothing with the teeth he is after. Patrick Wilson isn't going to go into a courtroom against Joey just to slap his hand, he wants blood and he is willing to take risks to get it.
ReplyDeleteAnd, keep in mind, this case can only go so far into the Shane vs. Presley drama, its only going to go as far as Carroll will let it. I think the simple point that Patrick wants to make is that Joey continued to do the same kind of behavior he is on trial for well after that. No matter what you believe about Shane he has not been convicted in a court of law of molesting his kids, so to call him a pedophile online and in print is a crime. It really doesn't have to go any deeper than that.
ReplyDeleteI think Wilson is skilled enough to keep it from becoming it's own event if he's prepared. If he's prepared, he will eat Presley alive on the stand. He's not going to show any sympathy, he will challenge her "side" in such a way that she'll walk out of the court room believing there's not a more horrid, evil man on the planet.
ReplyDeleteI was wondering if more charges haven't been added. Didn't I read somewhere that Shane was in contact with Wilson to file a complaint?
Well I'm thinking Patrick probably realizes what a loose cannon Presley is with all her antics from out west, tough talk and all. If he's seen a spig of her online FB antics, he understands he's dealing with someone that is missing a few bricks from the pile. All of her emotion and rage is bound to spill out and maybe he's hoping she'll scream all kinds of conspiracy crap straight from the Dauben camp. My bet is that's what he expects to happen. Then he may give her some rope asking her to provide concrete evidence to her abuse claims. Since this apparently has all be investigated many times and by what I've read online even the FBI has polygraphed her father and cleared him. She has nothing but her rage and emotion. While she may feel and believe she's a victim of abuse, in a court of law the only standard is evidence. With what Joey wrote about Shane and the semen in the diaper, that info was either straight from Presley without any credence or Joey just made it up to enrage his fellow readers. That too can or will come into question and without any evidence, it shows Joey will write whatever he feels like WITHOUT any backing of evidence or proof from law enforcement or a court of law.
ReplyDeleteIn the end, Joey MAY have been motivated by 'little joey' and had the hots for Presley willing to say and do whatever she wanted so King Yahweh could welcome his queen into the kingdom.
Even though I've spilled my opinion on how this may play out knowing Presley is reading word for word, I'll bet everything I own, she is so out of control, she will not be able to control her emotions. She's too far gone. She was even spewing today how Alex Jones media said 34 states are going to Secede and she believes that already happened. Hellllooo Bueller?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP0mQeLWCCo
Here Wilson, another one for ya. Isn't this why she got fired from her summer job too? LOL Presley Tumahead, I'm pretty sure Nazi's hated blacks but errr hey what do I know?
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so, it starts tommorrow at 9am... also why would they not go after the mother, for providing the information, if the mother knew it was false
ReplyDeleteOne more for the night. Who Presley and Connie call Connie's twin (loryn rider). I've seen Presley yap about Clinton and Bush raping children. Maybe Wilson needs to bring that up too. Go for it Presley, lets see how well you fair in Texas saying this about George Bush.
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And yappy, this is why I am here, for the entertainment. I have a background in psych even though I've only recently renewed my activity in the field. A person could build a career out of the case studies provided by Joey & Associates.
ReplyDeleteWhich mother? Buchert's baby momma? Wasn't she charged with making a false police report?
ReplyDeleteI think they already put her in jail, plus they want to nail Joey I don't think anyone would deny that. That doesn’t mean its a conspiracy, it just means Joey is an annoying little prick they want to shut up.
ReplyDeleteAgain, we keep thinking of this trial as a case of whodunit type of thing, did he or did he not do what he is accused of? Well that is the case in the Navarro charges but not here. Joey is guilty as sin of what he is being accused of. He even admits that. The only question is the penalty. If this were Joe Schmo who runs his own blog that covers this and that. One day, out the blue this girl Kristin comes to him with these documents and outrageous allegations against her ex, he gets caught up in it and lashes out at her ex online in a brief fit of rage. He then finds out that what he said was not true, apologizes profusely and never does that again. Now, Joe Schmo, like Joey, is guilty. But a jury is going to feel sympathy for Joe and will chalk it up as a one time honest mistake with good intentions. But this trial is about Joey Dauben, and Patrick Wilson is going to drive home the point that what Joey did, he did all the time and continued to do it afterwards. He did not learn his lesson, it wasn't an honest mistake, and if he is not punished, he most surely will re-offend. That is why Wilson is doing this, its way past did he or did he not do it.
Shane was busy before leaving CA. New Post on Connie's FB page:
ReplyDeleteHa ha incestuous child molester Shane Crowe served me a restraining order at work for publicly talking about him: hey Shane this is how much I care about your illegal RO, I might burn it on a YouTube video for you, you scumbag rapist!! Quit raping children!! Looks like your BS illegal RO can't shut me up! Lightning is coming for your rapist forehead!
She and Presley are pretty upset about it. I would post Presley's comments but she has a potty mouth.
I love the random chime in by Kimberly "why does the camera keep breaking" Harrington
ReplyDeleteKimberly Harrington well sounds like you lady's are getting the best of him sounds like he is scared like i always said guilty dog barks the loudest LmAO!!!!!!yep
"guilty dog barks the loudest", do these rednecks ever stop to think if their analogy makes any sense whatsoever? Have you ever noticed a guilty dog? they all whimper and hide in the corner.
They don't get it Ginger. Connie see's her posts as all powerful and scary. SHe thinks she intimidates people and gets them running scared. If you called around the courts in Sacramento Counties, they laugh when they hear her name. She's known as the batshitcrazy chick. Another one called her last page news. They all know she's a total loon and won't shut up because someone that mentally deranged never shuts up.
ReplyDeleteBy the looks of these comments, Shane hasn't left California if Kerrazy is correct, she has to go to the RO hearing on the 16th. Maybe Shane's 'testimony' is affidavit only / more on sentencing phase? He doesn't seem to have much to add to the actual charges, only to lend to the fact that Joey kept up his chit against other men.
Where's FundayFriday? I'm curious to see what a Presley/Joey baby would look like. I bet the kid will have a birthmark in the shape of Illiuminati. :P
They don't get it Ginger. Connie see's her posts as all powerful and scary. SHe thinks she intimidates people and gets them running scared. If you called around the courts in Sacramento Counties, they laugh when they hear her name. She's known as the batshitcrazy chick. Another one called her last page news. They all know she's a total loon and won't shut up because someone that mentally deranged never shuts up.
ReplyDeleteBy the looks of these comments, Shane hasn't left California if Kerrazy is correct, she has to go to the RO hearing on the 16th. Maybe Shane's 'testimony' is affidavit only / more on sentencing phase? He doesn't seem to have much to add to the actual charges, only to lend to the fact that Joey kept up his chit against other men.
Where's FundayFriday? I'm curious to see what a Presley/Joey baby would look like. I bet the kid will have a birthmark in the shape of Illiuminati. :P
Connie Ibedwell keeps claiming she's Elijah's daughter. I suppose Elijah is the one who can command lightning from the heavens? IF that's the case, whats takeing Timmy I have a TUMA in my head so long? How freaking batshit crazy is this woman??? She bible codes, she thinks her dad is some biblical savior and Presley just sucks it all up like yesterdays lunch special. Connie, why not get it over with. Put on your lightning show. YOu seem to think you scare people when in fact, everyone rolls with laughter behind your back because YOU ARE A VERY MENTALLY ILL HUMAN BEING. GET help crazy!
ReplyDeleteCompletely insane. Someone needs to lock her away and fast.
Connie Bedwell-Tuma He is just asking for a lightning bolt bwaaahhhaaaaa #evil jew elijah daughter laugh ;) lol
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ReplyDeletehaha, here's where the actual petition is:
ReplyDeletehttps://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-texas-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/BmdWCP8B
So according to the hashtag Elijah's daughter is evil? Isn't that contradictory of what she is claiming about herself?
ReplyDeleteElijah brought down fire from heaven so I guess thats what she means.
ReplyDeleteAnd to interesting, I think (and let me emphasise think when dealing with a human-like creature in Connie) she is making fun of those that mock her with the "evil jew Elijah daughter laugh". Then again, maybe she knows she is evil. Connie has nothing in common with Elijah, but she should do some Bible coding on a woman named Jezebel.
Hey Brannon, you going to the trail today?
ReplyDeleteThis is unrelated:
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Research the Bohemian grove, a known elite homosexual camp. George Bush admits going in his own biography, and is also photographed in a Bohemian Grove book. Clinton on video recognizes the camp as a place where "Republicans go and run around naked". There has been more than one testimony where orphaned children and foster children were brought into the camp for sexual favors. Even Nixon called it the most G-Damn faggoty thing he's ever seen. All the vids are available on youtube.
ReplyDeleteNot my words, just what has been reported, and information in their own words & books.
In my day people didn't tell on each other, call courts, serve stupid restraining orders, and generally be rats. If somebody mouthed off like Joey is accused of, somebody kicked his butt and the situation was over. Now today, everybody is telling and filling our court systems with this bologna.
ReplyDeleteThe only thing I'm concerned about is that TRUE molesters be locked up. He said - she said junk, Cyberbullying (which is not even a crime) and all this rumormongering is just nuts.
I knew you were drop dead stupid, now you finally showed your card. Here, let me go ahead and give you something else that will keep you up at night.....google the Georgia guide-stones. You can even see it on youtube, the most credible source of information in the mentally defecients universe
ReplyDeleteBy the way, if Bardwell knew Joey well prior to this, I don't see how he has any business being the judge in this case. Not because of his qualifications or anything of that sorts, as I believe he is qualified, but because he knew of Joey fairly well.
ReplyDeleteWhile I sort of agree with the first sentence - in that there are way too many litigious people wasting our court resources, this goes deeper than that. This is a criminal offense. If it were a one time deal & Joey issued a sincere apology, perhaps it would have been dropped. Since Joey continues to bully & harass people, it deserves to be heard by a jury. He actually hurts people. If you search his ECO 2 site (which has probably 1/2 of what was on the real site), you'll find SEVERAL half-assed apologies. Joey didn't take this as a learning tool to be a respectable journalist who checks sources before printing libel. They may only be charging him with the identifying information, but the whole thing goes deeper than that. Think of it like doctor malpractice. A doctor makes a mistake that causes somebody injury, malpractice pays damages & everybody moves on. A doctor does it over and over and over by being negligent & you can prove that he knew what he was doing or covered his mistakes further harming patients, the doctor should face charges.
ReplyDeleteAll states have laws that address cyberbullying/cyberharassing. By bringing up cyberbullying, they are establishing a pattern with Joey. He neglects the rights of other people. He posted things to get readers. There was no due diligence.
Lots of people come before the same judges multiple times. While it's possible a judge may be biased. If I were a teacher or principle of a school, the same student might come to me several times for some sort of decision of punishment. Just because I make a judgement in one instance doesn't make me automatically biased and unfit to decide in another instance. The judge should be interested in justice for all parties as defined by the law.
If anybody wants to reread Joey's oh so humble and apologetic take on this:
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There is a chapter on Kristen. It is about halfway down and begins with "if I were female, I’d bash Kristen Spencer’s face in myself."
He states that he was instantly attracted to her. She is a black widow. But then he goes on to say that she is "somewhat fairly attractive."
ReplyDeleteAnd "standing firm as one of the only reporters to take up a mother’s cause allowed me to meet some of the most attractive women." Laying it on a little thick isn't he?
"In 99 percent of the cases I’ve done, and stories I’ve written, I have never met the children that those stories are about. Why? Because I have two puppies that I adore more than anything in the world. If I saw another little dog, I’d probably become attached." < ----- I just think this sounds really odd, like Sandusky odd. I don't think it really is, but it just paints a picture of Joey as totally devoid of understanding how he presents his thoughts. The way he states his thought process is really strange.
"I fell for Kristen Spencer’s lie because I was focused more on having a sexual relationship with her on top of crusading against child abuse." <---- so JoJo, were you turned on by her being "somewhat fairly attractive" or was it the crusade against child abuse that got your juices flowing? (he says he ran this one up the flag pole prematurely - indeed)
He could also do hypotheticals like "if I were a man"
ReplyDeleteYeah, Joey made no secret about going after single mothers who were at least "somewhat fairly attractive". In fact, ugly chics dont even get his time of day in his campaigns and the only reason he let Anthony Lingle on was because he was tied in with Presley and Connie, two people he was targeting for sex.
ReplyDeleteSo Joey indicates that he's published documents supplied to him before & gotten in trouble. He's made threats before and had to answer. Yeah, so both cases were essentially dropped, but he knew the potential consequences he was opening himself up for. If he's truly doing valuable work, wouldn't he do better to make a couple simple changes in the way he is doing things? I mean, if he's in jail, he can't be helping people, right? Seems simple to me. But no, Joey goes on posting things without thoroughly vetting the sources or their documents. He pretends to apologize, but it's full of excuses and qualifiers. He continues to threaten people, but he makes sure to put in his key word, "if." Does that really make it OK? He supposedly has so many readers. Wouldn't his words be a call to action for them? When you publish that somebody is a child molester aren't you putting their lives in danger? Joey takes no accountability for his hate mongering.
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"And then I made a threat: if (key word has been that two-letter word) Buchert did this, he deserves the ultimate punishment: death. "
"Second, this case had a striking similarity to the Combine case just two years prior. I wrote the same things, just interchanged the names, yet two years ago, it was a cop. I wrote, among other things, “If I were not a moral man, I would put a bullet in John Allen ‘Jay’ Hoskins’ head.” The Dallas FBI said that was highly offensive, but protected free speech. Red Oak PD didn’t think so"
"Yeah, jerk, just like Achey’s mug shot and Hoskins’ mug shot before that, I posted Kristen Spencer’s photos of documents she supplied me! I later published a side-by-side comparison of Hoskins’ search warrant affidavit and the Red Oak’s affidavits. They sounded the same. A source supplied me with information, including photos, and I published it. And then I threatened that the punishment – if true – was death. Just an opinion."
"Perhaps the irony of it all is that on July 18, 2011, was the two-year anniversary of me receiving the mug shot of William Achey that I published on The Ellis County Observer that ultimately got put in jail."
"My mom cautioned me . . . I didn’t listen"
"Ramsey said he would convince his client not to sue me civilly (he would have won everything, hands down) if I were to take down the interview. I complied, and said, 'but if it’s true Rodney and I find out it’s true, it’s all going back up.'" <---- OReader note: In that last line, we see that Joey has watched too much TV. He is acting out a role.
And an OReader favorite:
"(many refuse to acknowledge me as a newspaper publisher, but I’ve been in the print business for 12 years, and by July 2011, I had launched 30 print newspapers, plus an array of blogs)"
I don't think he was targeting the women for sex as much as the appearance of it. On some level, Joey is aware of his immaturity and lack of masculinity. He goes over the top in trying to prove that he is a man (with man wants and desires). Joey is social awkward at best. I think if Presley or Connie came to him and said they'd pretend to date him but were completely abstinent from all physical interaction, he'd have jumped on that deal in a heartbeat. I think it's more about saying, "I can have this because I'm a MAN."
ReplyDeleteWhat a complete, self-centred, lunatic. The search warrant affidavits are similar in format and structure, therefore it must be part of some conspiracy against me. Forget the fact that I'm guilty as hell in both cases, or that maybe most search warrants have to follow a standard format, no no its a conspiracy against me simple as that.
ReplyDelete@ Jimmy S: I can see that you have not completed your ECO reading assignment. You said "mouthed off like Joey is accused of". This is not an allegation or an accusation and not rumor mongering. It is a well known supportable fact that Joey mouthed off with malice.
ReplyDeleteRead the search warrant and pay particular attention to the probable cause explanations. The whole thing has been available on line since early this year, Yappy and OReader reposted it earlier this week on this blog. It states "The postings further included indirect threats and enticement and/or soliciation of unknown person(s) to commit physical harm, up to and including murder, against the victim and/or his family." This behavior is against the law, as is "kicking Joey's butt". As OReader points out, Joey did this over and over again.
It's the DA's job to fill up the court system with people that break the law. Joey broke the law. If somebody decided to "kick Joey's butt" because he posted lies, personal information and incited violence, that somebody would be violating a law. Do you think Joey would not file an assault complaint? Should the DA not prosecute an assault on Joey to avoid filling up the courts?
If Joey had targeted you because he thought your ex was hot or because he doesn't like your chosen occupation and continually posted lies about you, told the world you should lose your job, told the world you molested your children or called out for some one to physically harm, I'd bet you'd know all about the cyber-bullying laws and want the court filled up with this junk.
Guilty and 2 years community supervision with a max of a 1 yr state jail a fine of 2400 and they meet tommorrow at 2pm to finalize shit I guess ...
ReplyDeleteWow, I thought it would be a fast trial. But, that was really fast. Or did they reach a plea deal?
ReplyDeleteHmmm, we are part of the community, you mean we can supervise him for two years? How many decades will it take Joey to pay off a $2400 fine?
ReplyDeleteso, first off, The DA only had 2 witnesses come up, and pretty much by noon it was done, then They gave closing arguements, then The jury went in and came back out declared him Guilty, Actually Wilson was the one that urged for The Supervision or (probation) but for the Jury to allow them the max in case he violates it, so The jury said I'm pretty sure 2 years probation and then 1 year max state jailtime, and I'm guessing tommorrow is to figure out the what he can and can not do for the probation and for the judge to make it official so it started around 10 or so and ended around 5. the Jury part though is done with
ReplyDeleteKimberly is a groupie. I just know she's got to be a cat lady.
ReplyDeleteSo Brannon, what was the defenses' argument in the case?
ReplyDeleteOh and what do you want to bet that the probation will involve no ECO?
ReplyDeleteSo, no jail time unless he violates probation again?
ReplyDeleteSo basically, he'll be going to jail then because he can't help himself. Good. NEXT!
ReplyDeletewell I guess from that article he only gets probation unless he violates it (which of course is highly likely especially if he thinks he is about to go down in Navarro)
ReplyDeleteThis is the most interesting question to me...he refused a plea deal so clearly he thought he could get a better outcome in a jury of his peers (how did they find 12 unemployed, self-loathing mongoloids?). Further, what defense is there to just plain stupid?
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