Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Joey Dauben's Trial is Delayed Once again

I'm hearing, as Brandy first mentioned, that the Navarro trial is being delayed once again. This may only be a weeks delay as they didn't have a big enough jury pool and apparently there were not enough potential jurors that would consider probation as part of his sentence if convicted of the crimes he is charged. If this is true then obviously these objections are coming from the defence as it sounds like these jurors are going to nail Joey to the wall.

Its funny how none of his cheerleaders including his dad are saying anything about this. I mean here we have Joey's life on the line and all Daddy seems to care about is popping wheelies in his lawless blazer. Its kinda ironic, just as Joey never really had a media empire of any kind, turns out he never really had any actual supporters in the end.

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  1. Or perhaps his dad doesn't want all of his words hated on this blog.
    Support comes in all kind of forms, not just online.

    Look I don't know if Joey is guilty or not, I hope that he is not for the sake of the young man. Perhaps the jabs have gone on long enough. Daddy is silent, so is momma, and all the rest... Nothing to feed on.

    If Joey is found guilty of this, it can mean really hard time. Despite the jabs, and what people say, accuse each other of etc., this is the life of a person who could be in a prison with gangs, drugs, and dangers for years. I don't agree with everything Joey has done, and he has done some good/bad reporting. I don't know if he is such a threat to deserve hard time like that, especially since the kid waited 4 years to report the alleged acts.

    If he did do the acts, its freaking disgusting and certainly the punishment should be more than probation. It's far from an 18 year old male dating a 15 (almost 16 year old) female and things "went too far". Though illegal, I hope that a jury would be more in consideration that both are "young", both say "teen" in their names etc.

    But if this really happened - GAY SEX, between a 26 year old male (well into his adult years), and a 15 year old teen, probation is not right. If I was the parent of the 15 year old, trust me, jail would be EXACTLY where he'd want to be - prison fences aren't just for keeping people from leaving.

    I hope that he is innocent, and did just tick off a kid that spewed up accusations.

    I don't doubt that he is bisexual, but as I've said many times I've only seen him date adult women. My gaydar has gone off around him several times though. I just hope he's innocent for the sake of everybody.

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  2. Yes, this IS a FAR FAR different charge than a teen romance that falls under statutory charges. A 26 year old man and 15 year old boy - very very different. Rape ruins lives. It isn't something you just forget about. It changes a person's character from the core. You add that the victim is a young developing boy, Joey was in a position of power/trust at a church retreat, and yes, you add in the gay factor. This boy is NEVER going to be the same person. He will struggle with his sexual identity and trust issues FOREVER. The four years that it took for the charges to result in arrest and trial do NOTHING to diminish the damage. If guilty, he may not yet be a Sandusky with hundreds youth touched, but that may only be because he was so early in his "career." Even if he did this & it was the only thing like this he would have ever done, it's beyond "freaking disgusting." He's gone on to name the child & try to slander his character. Even if the kid is lying, Joey knew that was the wrong reaction. Joey has made the wrong decisions over and over and over and over.

    Regarding Joey's own sexuality, yeah, I think he's gay. And, if so, Joey is the main person that has made coming out difficult.

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  3. yeah except his dad isn't being silent. He can't stop talking about his new messiah Bill Windsor, he gives us constant updates on where and what Bill is doing, including interviewing Joey at the jail, and Daddy seems more interested in painting his car and following around this fraud than in trying to defend his son.

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  4. I would say they were both young developing boys, one was just doing it much faster than the other. If the defendant in this case was John Doe age 26 who had sex with a young boy aged 15 I would be outraged and want to throw the book at that person. But, as I have said, once you know Joey you know that this is a case of two young boys having sex. Joey is a man in the strict technical definition of the word, and because of that he will probably do hard time. But Joey is not a man in any other measure that we have of the word. He can not support himself, he can not think for himself. He is weak, shy and all around helpless. He is driven by emotion and petty little childish vendettas. In fact, if he gets convicted and was sent to juvenile detention he would fit in perfectly with the other boys. I think its not fair to throw the poor kid into a prison with real hardened male criminals.

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  5. I'll agree that Joey would find more "peers" in a juvenile detention center. However, in our current society, Joey has been given rights that come with age that he has fully utilized, driving, voting, drinking, running for office . . . etc. He isn't a manchild that is unaware of his adulthood past puberty. He knows the law. He knows the consequences. Based on the behaviour of Sandusky, I'd argue that he is no different at his age. In some psychosocial way, he relates to young boys. Both of them could have found some immature equally stunted 18/19 year old. This kid was only 15 and still developing. There are plenty of immature adults out there that will follow the same developmental track as Joey. He altered a maturing boy's life path. If he'd found an adult that was similar to him, at least that person would have already matured to their potential, be it stunted like he is. Basically he took something from that kid. Joey may have the maturity of a young teen, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have peers out there that are of age and equally (im)mature. He isn't so stunted that he doesn't know better.

    Joey doesn't need to be in prison with the big boys, but there are all kinds of facilities out there. If he's found guilty, hopefully they will find him the proper detention center where he will be safe and get help. Maybe he can even get an education and some life skills out of it.

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  6. Well yeah Joey knew what he was doing is wrong and will pay for it, I'm just saying he isn't a man. You bring up Sandusky, and certainly Jerry had a desire to relate to young boys (not just sexually). He wanted to be around them all the time. But, unlike Joey, he had a job all his life. He raised a family. He paid his bills, he met his requirements at work. Joey is, and never was, any of those things. And its not just that Joey has never had a job, I would argue that he couldn't actually hold a job. He is a petulant, spoiled rotten brat. He did wrong, not just this case but all the other things we have chronicled, but he should be punished as the child he is.

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  7. I guess a better way to think of it is what are we saying when you turn 18. Yes, you are now, technically in the eyes of the law, considered and adult. You now get the rights and responsibility's that go with it. Thats our law and I'm not advocating that we change it. But on an actual level turning 18 is just another day in your life, its not like something magical happens and one becomes an adult. Some 16 year old's are more adult-like than some 32 year olds. If Joey did it than he is guilty and should be punished. But what his attorney may be trying to get at in his seeking of partial probation is that this isn't going to be your standard 26 year old man raping a poor helpless 15 year old boy.

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  8. Yeah, I get what you are saying, and I don't disagree. There isn't a magical time people mature into adults. Obviously there is major gray area, and the law has to set a somewhat arbitrary number to define adulthood.I guess my point is that Joey isn't going to mature beyond where he is. Not really. He may finally figure out what he needs to do to hold a job and survive in this world, but somewhere in time his brain stopped developing. Not learning, just developing and forming. For most people, the brain is actually developed to its full potential in it's 20s. I'm sure Joey is the same. His full maturity just isn't on par with the average adult. It never will be. Look at his father. While his father may be a functioning adult, it's clear he really doesn't have true adult maturity either. He plays with giant Hot Wheels. If Daddy Dauben was guilty of what Joey is accused of, you wouldn't put him in juvie. Aside from a few more chronological years & a wife that keeps the family (somewhat) on track, what's the difference? I guess my point is that Joey may forever be a peer of teenagers (with or without gainful employment & responsibilities). He's not the only "adult" functioning as such. He didn't have to pick somebody that still had maturing to do. He could have easily picked another 20 something girl or guy that has the same issues he has. Afterall, he found Presley. Presley may have dabbled with being an adult, but she certainly isn't one either. And, his dad found his mom.

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  9. nothingbettertodotodayOctober 30, 2012 at 10:12 AM

    Funny how things change with the shoe on the other foot. Joey made public out crys for physical harm and death for those JOEY (judge and jury of 1) found guilty of sexually abusing a child. So, now JOEY wants a JURY of 12 to consider probation if he is found guilty?

    Maybe the whole jury pool in Navarro Cty read Joey's posts. Or, maybe the whole public is tired of sexual predators that target childern. Or, maybe Gingersnap is correct: the evidence might be such that Joey is in a position to have to say, well yeah, something happened, but....... (insert a really good excuse here).

    With regard to the original complaint: until the evidence is actually presented, I don't think anybody (except Joey & his defense team) really knows how/when the complaint was made or by whom.

    I can see why Daddy is not vocal with a defense right now, there might not be one. With letters to the FBI and following Windsor around, seems to me he's extending Joey's campaign to be viewed as a martyr. If Joey weren't in the jail, why would Windsor be interested in the story? Daddy needs to keep Windsor involved so Windsor can save the day. Also, maybe Daddy is smart enough (I know, it's a stretch) to know that whatever he says now can come back and bite him and/or Joey.

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  10. I dont think it was so much of Joey picking this boy, as it was a rare opportunity presenting itself. Being closeted and high profile like Joey was, im sure he had very few chances to engage in sexual activity with another male. Its not like he could go to the gay bars or clubs. He had to hide this secret life of his because it conflicted with the online personality he made up. So I dont think he ever intended for this to happen, it just did and a boy showed interest and he perused it. I doubt this is like with Sandusky where he is picking the boy out of the crowd and then grooming him, I think it was just a one night opportunity and he couldn't control his desires (much like he can't in any other part of his life either). I think the online messages Joey had with this boy after the incident shows that Joey did know he did wrong and was trying to control it.

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  11. nothingbettertodotodayOctober 30, 2012 at 10:26 AM

    And, another thing: wasn't it Joey that cried foul on Wilson for dismissing a whole jury? Remember? The allegation was, Wilson set Joey up.

    Oh, wait - I guess cherry picking a jury is OK now that Joey wants to dismiss all of the potential jurors Navarro County rounded up.

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  12. Perhaps Joey's mom or legal team have talked enough sense into him. I'd bet bond being revoked was a wakeup call to them. Gag orders aren't meant to be circumvented by using family and friends.

    They may have thought that getting Joey's version of the story out was a way to garner support, but Joey has said so many outrageous things in the past, he's really just the boy who cried wolf. (I almost called him the Pied Piper . . . which fits with a little Freudian twist. . . whoops) Anyway, Joey words, even through family and friends, are pretty much worthless. If they want a fair trial for Joey, the best way is to keep their mouths shut. That way, the jury will only make a decision based upon the evidence presented at trial. Joey's own behaviour and "published works" serve only to further damn him.

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  13. nothingbettertodotodayOctober 30, 2012 at 10:39 AM

    I think you are right - maybe Joey's attorney helped Daddy, et al, understand their contribution to Joey's bail revocation. I was thinking while typing earlier: how do they expect the next group of potential jurors to be any different from the first group? Joey better hope there aren't very many people in Navarro County willing to spend the $17, or whatever the amount, for Windor's guide to avoid jury duty.

    Or, maybe they are planning to ask for a change in venue.......

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  14. but then why waive Windsor in for an in-jail interview? I bet they weren't talking about the weather.

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  15. Yeah, but isn't that how this kind of starts? The first opportunity just sort of presents itself to be taken advantage of . . . . the abuser knows he did wrong, feels guilty for a while. Then, somewhere down the line, history repeats itself. The abuser now knows how easy it could be & what the potential pitfalls are. They don't feel the same kind of guilt because they know they have done it before & they are already broken/sick/dirtied. I don't know a lot about the kid, but it was mentioned that he was a foster child. He was obviously involved in a kinda sketchy church. I could make some other guesses about his family life that would probably fit. It's a pretty classic profile from groomers to pick. Joey may have stumbled on it, but once that door is open, how easy is it to justify down the line? I'm not saying Joey was going to become a serial child abuser, but how many started in this exact way? The potential is there, and it has to be considered. Joey may have tried to turn it around himself. It may be why he sees pedophile rings everywhere. Maybe he hates the part of him that could do that, and knows there are far worse people in this world that actually thrive & feed that same thing in themselves. He may see himself as basically a good person who did a sick thing. So in Joey's mind, ever dirty cop, power hungry judge, cheating builder must also harbor & act on the same sickness . . .

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  16. They still believe in the corruption. And to them, Bill Windsor isn't one of Joey's family or friends. He's making a movie! He's an expert on political corruption with documentation. He wealthy and powerful! His voice matters! The people that were specifically tied to Joey's press releases are pretty quiet on the subject of Joey. Joey himself can't be shut up unless he is locked up. He answers to no one. The truth is that his family and followers don't have the same investment in his future. They weren't motivated to find the money to get him out of jail. At a certain point, they move on to something more fun. Bill Windsor is their new entertainment.

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  17. yeah I think you are exactly right on, especially with the part about him trying to expose others in an attempt to say "see they are all just as bad or worse than me". The only thing I was talking about was from what you said about why he didn't pick someone else, equally immature, around his age. I'm just saying I don't think there was any premeditation going into this at all, I think it really did just happen.

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  18. nothingbettertodotodayOctober 30, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    I agree, the Dauben group sees Windsor differently, he's not "in the loop", he's like a god to them. But after reading Windsor's web site I decided he is "loopy". He's going to bring charges against John Tower. And, he knows Tower died in a plane crash. WTH???

    Nobody in Ellis or Navarro County government is on Windsor's "hit" list. But, he does have a lot of TX US reps and Senators on the list, and G.W. Bush (for, of all things, sexual misconduct). There's nothing on his blog about visiting with Joey. I'd bet my next pay check Joey will not make the final movie cut unless he's convicted. Joey is only of value to Windor's movie/cause if Joey is "falsely" convicted. It's martyr time!

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  19. I sort of agree. The thing is IF Joey is guilty of this, despite what he has done in his life (or lack), it doesn't matter to me.

    I know him some and yes, I do think there is immaturity, however, I don't think that should ever sway a judgment on where he'd go. IF he did this (again I hope not), he was 26.

    Think of it this way (if you are older than 26). Rememer your life at 18, 19, 20, 21 (finally can legally drink!), then 22, moving on to 23.... Remember all the times you struggled, moved out of your parent's home, jobs etc. Then on to 24, 25 (did you have children, married?) then to 26.....

    There are A LOT of years there. At 26, so to say, it was an entire different universe than at 15 for me. Some people "party" until they are 26, and we all choose our own path. This is not the path I have chosen, but I don't care to judge those who have.

    If Joey's path was starting up papers, sites, harassing people, or legit reporting (I hear all of it) then that was his path to 26 years old. He also was a church goer. Youth leader..... I don't give credence to "immaturity" as an excuse, even in mentality (unless real medical issues etc.)

    IF he did this, at 26, after living 11 full years after 15 himself, I'm sorry, I can't excuse his mentality IF it is near a 15 year olds. At 26 years old, the last thing in my mind would be to get some 15 year old guy doing the nasty. In fact, it would not even be in my mind. I could not even comprehend it. I can't say that Juvi would serve him better.... However, we must understand that these are alleged charges as well. I have no idea of the multiple fascets of Joey. He was always 'fine' around me. Talked a lot about women.

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  20. I don't doubt there is corruption in Ellis County at all. I even don't doubt that many of the things Joey has reported on are true.

    I think teh easiest way to view this entire thing is to consider everything different issues.

    1) Joey's maturity
    2) Joey's reporting
    3) Joey's criminal accusation

    Corruption conspiring against him through 1 young man's accusations, I don't buy it. However, he really did piss off a lot of people in Ellis county & government personages... They aren't making the accusations, but "fair trial" is an issue. It took a LONG time for him to even be represented. I think that gives a bit of credence to what he is up against.

    Like him or not, whether he advocated fair trials or not, he really does deserve a fair trial.

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  21. well thats just it, I remember Joey when he was 23 and he was much more of an adult then than he is at 31. He is regressing back to a child. Back then he respected authority, the rules, had a acutal job and had a plan for a productive life. Maybe the better word is retarded. Joey has literally become mentally retarded by his own delusions of conspiracies and greatness. He should be punished, but in his current physical and mental state I think sending him to prison will kill him.

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  22. nothingbettertodotodayOctober 30, 2012 at 1:36 PM

    @ Jimmy: I don't think anybody doubts there is some corruption on all levels in either county. When it comes right down to it, I have a problem with realtors being elected to city councils - seems like a huge conflict of interest to me. And, I could go on and on and on about some past and present Municipal and County Judges. But none of that has anything to do with Joey's "reporting" - most of which was either an exaggeration of the truth or not true at all.

    I doubt most people in the jury pool know who Joey is or what he's done/said. Nobody is arguing that he's not entitled to a fair trial. The "lot of people" pissed off by Joey are pissed off because Joey said things that weren't true, weren't fair and were hurtful. We all want Joey to have a fair trial - neither his conviction nor his aquittal would give us vindication if the trials aren't fair.

    With regard to finding an attorney, it appears there were two issues 1) money, most attorneys want to get paid - in advance and 2) Joey has blasted just about every judge and attorney in the area. If I were an attorney and I knew what he'd done with his "papers", I'd have a hard time defending him too, on principle and in the interest of protecting my reputation. What do you suppose Joey, et al, is going to say about his attorney if he's convicted?

    The defense has a right to strike potential jurors for cause, such as they think all child molesters should go to jail. I doubt that this pool was dismissed because they all know Joey and want him punished for something other than the crimes he's accused of committing. I think this says more about what the people of Navarro County think about child molesters than it says about Joey.

    With regard to his level of maturity, as OReader pointed out, that is no excuse. Joey clearly knows having sex with a minor is illegal. What's that old saying - if you can't do the time, don't
    do the crime?

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  23. yeah, I dont want to leave any other inference from what I posted other than they couldn't find enough jurrors that would give partial probation if convicted. This had nothing to do with them knowing Joey or having anything to do with that. I think its just a case of joey's attorney knowing where this is going to end up and trying to find a jury that will be easy on him if convicted.

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  24. So okay technically you have all experienced corruption and failures in the system, right? You all feel the guilty are getting away with anything b/c of power, privilege and money..so that makes any of you a perfect candidate to appear on lawless america. think about it. Don't get all crazy or call names or make accusations..if this is what you believe, stand up for it in a clear, and concise way.

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  25. Sorry Princess, but no. I have no personal experience of any corruption or failure in the system. No lawsuits, divorces, custody battles, or jail time to speak of. Aside from probate, I haven't had to deal with courts or law enforcement on my personal life. (Nor have close family members.) I have served jury duty, and I felt that process was fair. The jurors I served with actually cared about the lives on both sides of the courtroom. So did the judges. Godbey was one. I think he's had some dealings with Joey even.

    Do I think there are failures in the system? Sure. Show me a perfect system. Show me a perfect person. Neither exists. Do I think most of the failures are due to corruption? No. I think most failures are due to an imperfect system itself rather than individuals motivated by "power, privilege, and money."

    There will never be a system that is one size fits all. Take something simple like a divorce. No matter how amicable the split, property can never be divided down the middle. Maybe we both want the dog or the sofa. Shared custody just isn't the same, and it's not like we can cut them in two. Now add kids.

    Wanna criminal example? Guy and girl fight. Girl swings at guy. Guy lets her hit him. Guy turns around to leave. Girl runs after him to continue fight, falls head first into coffee table. . . Or . . . maybe that's not what happened at all. Maybe guy hits girl. Girl defends herself. Guy throws/pushes girl into coffee table. It's just so hard to tell. The only two people involved have different stories. The evidence at the scene fits both stories. Nobody has a record of abuse. Nobody can be convicted or punished. Somebody gets away with hurting the other. Imperfect situation, imperfect evidence, imperfect system, but not judicial corruption.

    I drive my car faster than the speed limit on an empty road and no police are around to ticket me. Unfair to person who gets caught doing the same thing 5 minutes later? Probably, but not corruption.

    And lastly, the sentencing phase. Say Joey is found guilty. One juror sees himself in Joey and is thankful that somebody gave him a chance after he headed down the wrong path - he wants the minimum sentence of probation and community service for Joey. Another juror sees her son in the accuser. She wants Joey to spend some time in jail as punishment & so he'll not hurt somebody else's son. Neither juror is corrupt.

    The court system will never ever be perfect because people are not perfect nor are all people and situations the same. I know it's a lot easier to just blame everybody else and scream corruption than it is to acknowledge how complicated and multifaceted the judicial system is. Not even Burger King can't manage to fulfill their "have it your way" promise every time.

    If you want change, giving a 3 minute speech (of which the majority is going to end up on the cutting room floor) for a movie (that is never going to see a theater) is not going to do it. Wearing your t-shirt from the movie so you can skirt your civic duty & avoid jury duty - also not exactly doing your part to fix what you say is broken. Hey, here's a thought - maybe you can not vote next week & then complain for 4 years about who is elected?

    The court system will never be perfect. Of course there will always be things that can be made better. Work from within. Actions speak a whole lot louder than words (that even your precious Bill Windsor doesn't really care about).

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  26. Oh, I almost forgot. You want something to think about Princess? Think about 1500 people all giving 3 minute testimonies that give no real detail regarding their cases. If my math is right, that'd be over 3 full days worth of raw footage of people sitting on motel furniture giving their monologue to a camera. You really think Bill is going to put you all in a movie?

    Here's an idea, maybe maestro Bill can make y'all a virtual choir. You guys already sing the same tune already. BOOM! 3 minute movie!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WhWDCw3Mng&feature=fvwrel

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  27. & I'm sorry if I'm a horrific a-hole this morning, but I didn't get even a minute of sleep last night. I woke up to read comments from pretty pretty princess. The "you should all tell your story of corruption to Bill because everybody has experienced it" is just preposterous. These people are so self-centered that they think the world cares enough to conspire against them.

    Sure there are corrupt judges. There are also corrupt teachers, nurses, doctors, fire fighters, policemen, clergy members, parents, and children. There is no profession or role no matter how philanthropic that is free of a few people with evil motivations. Start living in the real world. Not everybody is bad, and their not all out to get you. You just aren't that important.

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  28. *they're - I'm sure there are other mistakes too, I just happened to notice it in the last line.

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  29. The Jury only finds the Defendant eligible, by strict standards for, probation. The Jury does not and can not grant probation.

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  30. And who said they did? All that has been said is that they there were too many that indicated they would not consider the full range of punishment. Unless I am mistaken a jury can make a recommendation? Were they not challenged for cause during the voir dire process? What exactly are you arguing?

    Are you arguing that I said that regarding sentencing multiple jurors may hear the same evidence, come to the same conclusion regarding guilt, and have different opinions regarding sentencing? I said opinion. Everybody has them.

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  31. nothingbettertodotodayOctober 31, 2012 at 2:59 PM

    Bravo! Well said.

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  32. Actually you did indicate that jurors decide whether he gets imprisonment or probation.

    "And lastly, the sentencing phase. Say Joey is found guilty. One juror sees himself in Joey and is thankful that somebody gave him a chance after he headed down the wrong path – he wants the minimum sentence of probation and community service for Joey. Another juror sees her son in the accuser. She wants Joey to spend some time in jail as punishment & so he’ll not hurt somebody else’s son. Neither juror is corrupt."

    And no the jury does not get to recommend either /or, But just hands down a sentence and makes a finding of Probation eligibility. The Judge then decides to probate or not.

    And finally my remark was not directed to you there are a number of other comments that indicated a misunderstanding of the jury role in probation.

    Not unlike the remarks about there being not enough jurors that would consider the full range of punishment. Its not only the defense's responsibility to ensure that those type of unqualified jurors do not get seated, it is the law that you have to consider the full range of punishment,, but it is also the Prosecution's responsibility to do the same, as allowing a jury to be seated with these beliefs would be automatically reversed as to the punishment phase thereby almost ensuring that JD got probation

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  33. nothingbettertodotodayNovember 3, 2012 at 6:35 AM

    Your comments indicate you may have significant experience and/or knowledge with regard to this issue, so I respectfully disagree. My experience/knowledge is limited to one case that is similar to Joey's but it didn't work the way you've outlined. Maybe Navarro County is different Ellis County. I sat on an Ellis County jury for man charged with 3 sexual crimes against a child. After deciding the man was guilty, the jury heard arguments from both sides and sent back into deliberation to decide the punishment, which ranged from probation to life in prison. The man was found guilty on 2 counts, was given 2 life sentences. The only decision made by the judge was whether the sentences would be served concurrently.

    With regard to jury selection, I do not recall that consideration of the full range of punishment was an issue for either side. The most important issue in selection was on the prosecutor's side: whether a juror could agree that breaking the plane, penis into vagina is penetration - like a football crossing the line for a touch down.

    Both sides have legal, moral and ethical obligation to ensure a fair trial. But, I'd bet your next pay check the probation issue in Joey's situation is driven by the defense.

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  34. Read it again. It just says what they want for him. Just like what I might want for him. Sorry if saying the sentencing phase threw you off, but it doesn't say anything about how the sentences are passed down.

    I'm not in the mood to argue with you, but you are picking apart things that are not written. Yes, it is the law that requires the jurors to be able to consider all sentences on the table. That has been said in the comments already.

    @NBTDT, "technically" he/she is right. The law states the jurors must be able to consider all punishments. But, you are correct also, this defense driven. I'm sure you were asked this in the trial you are thinking about, but it was probably just a one sentence deal. I'm sure Joey's defense presented this as a key pivotal issue.

    Mr/Ms Facts, you are trying to take generalities and "correct" them with specifics, however, your "specifics" are not right in all cases. I could get 6 attorneys on this blog that have law degrees from UT or SMU Dedman that will tell you that your attempt to school the people on this blog is fraught with error itself, but it's not really worth the effort. Nobody on this blog is saying anything egregiously wrong regarding the jury or sentencing, including yourself. It would be correcting minor details that don't need to be corrected (just as you are doing).

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  35. Also out of all the computer taken, no porn reported, either.

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  36. Reporting live from Ellis County Observer Election Central (the Wayne McCollumDetention Center)- here is your 2012 Election Update.... Joey Dauben has been voted jail inmate of the year by Bubba.

    This year's election was covered from his jail cell, where he was voted most likely to be sentenced to hard time in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice and lifetime registration as a convicted sex offender.

    Here's to no 2012 ECO election coverage. We should be free of the Dauben clan's election coverage....for oh, 20 years HAHA.

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